0
Join Login/Signup
Community Discussion

Question About Selling Software

# Seocheckout
August 21, 2014
fpforum Author Level 1

Write the reason you're deleting this FAQ

Hey Seocheckout team, I hope someone can help me here...

I have a piece of software that I put together some time ago and currently sell outside of SEOC. The software is available in two different versions..a free version that comes with ads (the Setup file is binded with the ad network RevenYou) and a paid version which costs $10 and does not have ads.

I'm looking to list the Paid version on SEOC so users can buy it for $10 and not have the ads binded to the Setup file. Is this possible? Or am I unable to list it since there is a free option available?

Thank you!
29

Comments 29

August 21, 2014
AsifAKhanLONDON
I don't think it would be a problem.

Did you create the software or do you own the rights?

Question About Selling Software

Enter a reason for deleting this comment

fpforum Author
Hello W130SN..yes, I wrote the software myself and own all the rights.etc. for it. I just know Seocheckout won't allow you to list Free software..and technically there is a free version of my software available..Even though that free version does come with ads (using RevenYou)...Thanks!

Enter a reason for deleting this comment

AsifAKhanLONDON
IMO, it shouldn't be a problem as it is a different version of the same software.
This will be the premium version without ads.

Enter a reason for deleting this comment

August 23, 2014
maivutan
By my point of view, If you are Level 1 seller, you can't sell software. If you do they will reject your service.
Oh, no wonder my software wasn't show up for weeks when I was new to seocheckout. I had contacted support and they found an excuse disallowing me to sell my software.

Enter a reason for deleting this comment

August 25, 2014
Beverly
By my point of view, If you are Level 1 seller, you can't sell software. If you do they will reject your service.


Do the Seocheckout TOS forbid a new seller from selling software? I have not read this before. Can you post a link to the place where you read this?

Enter a reason for deleting this comment

Beverly
No, I didn't read that any where, previously I tried to sell a software, but it was rejected by seocheckout. It happens with my friends also.


Thanks for clarifying. So, now I am wondering why this happened. Maybe there were specific circumstances present in all the situations, other than just new seller status being involved. Not knowing all the facts of the situation or even what type of software you were offering, I can't really say.

Enter a reason for deleting this comment

August 26, 2014
maivutan
Do the Seocheckout TOS forbid a new seller from selling software? I have not read this before. Can you post a link to the place where you read this?

It's merely a point of view. In other word, it's just an opinion. ;)
Yes, I seen it here. Question About Selling Software
You will have to provide your what proves you are the owner of the software by providing the rights that you have to sell the software.

It would be great if you don't spam. Question About Selling Software

The 2nd reply made by @W130SN asked that and 3rd reply made by the owner of this thread answered your question. ;) So, that proves that you didn't bother to read. :mad:

Enter a reason for deleting this comment

Beverly
It's merely a point of view.

Good to know! Question About Selling Software


Oh, no wonder my software wasn't show up for weeks when I was new to seocheckout. I had contacted support and they found an excuse disallowing me to sell my software.


You mentioned how they "found an excuse disalllowing" you to sell software when you new to seocheckout.

Can you be more detailed as to the specific reason(s) given about why they would not let you sell that software?

Enter a reason for deleting this comment

August 28, 2014
maivutan
You mentioned how they "found an excuse disalllowing" you to sell software when you new to seocheckout.

Can you be more detailed as to the specific reason(s) given about why they would not let you sell that software?
I had submitted my software that I bought from an auction with license from the developer to claim the item as mine and resale it. In fact, I wasn't know that I was "submitting", not "listing". Question About Selling Software After few days past, I had no news of the submission Question About Selling Software and I contacted support.

These are the reasons they told (not in a row):
  1. Unlicensed Software, violation of Seocheckout Terms of Service
  2. Requires proof to prove that that software have reselling rights Question About Selling Software
  3. Similar to an existing software :mad:
  4. It's a vague o_O
  5. Sale on Seocheckout to earn profits :mad:

I spent so much time explaining to them that I have legal rights to resell although that software isn't made by me and it's totally comply seocheckout' Terms of Service but they still told me I hadn't provide them sufficient proofs. Question About Selling Software When I continued asked them what kind of proofs do they want as I'm really innocent, I can provide anything they want but they became silence. :mad:

Enter a reason for deleting this comment

Beverly
I had submitted my software that I bought from an auction with license from the developer to claim the item as mine and resale it. In fact, I wasn't know that I was "submitting", not "listing". Question About Selling Software After few days past, I had no news of the submission Question About Selling Software and I contacted support.

These are the reasons they told (not in a row):
  1. Unlicensed Software, violation of Seocheckout Terms of Service
  2. Requires proof to prove that that software have reselling rights Question About Selling Software
  3. Similar to an existing software :mad:
  4. It's a vague o_O
  5. Sale on Seocheckout to earn profits :mad:

I spent so much time explaining to them that I have legal rights to resell although that software isn't made by me and it's totally comply seocheckout' Terms of Service but they still told me I hadn't provide them sufficient proofs. Question About Selling Software When I continued asked them what kind of proofs do they want as I'm really innocent, I can provide anything they want but they became silence. :mad:


They provided you with very detailed reasons as to why the software was not allowed. So it's not like they did not give you any reasons.

All software submitted undergoes review before being allowed on Seocheckout and this is to prevent copyright infringement issues for the site.

Every Seocheckout member submitting software would need to abide by these guidelines mentioned here, not just new members. And, if the proof you submit is insufficient to prove you have resale rights (even if you were told by the person who sold you the software that it was), then they will not allow you to offer it.

The third explanation, 'similar to an existing software' is most likely reason the software was not allowed. So even if you submitted more proof that you have resale rights, it still will not affect the decision.

Letting ten people sell the exact same software on Seocheckout would only create a bidding war where everything was being offered at $3.00 and then there is no profit for the site on those orders.

Enter a reason for deleting this comment

August 29, 2014
maivutan
They provided you with very detailed reasons as to why the software was not allowed. So it's not like they did not give you any reasons.

All software submitted undergoes review before being allowed on Seocheckout and this is to prevent copyright infringement issues for the site.

Every Seocheckout member submitting software would need to abide by these guidelines mentioned here, not just new members. And, if the proof you submit is insufficient to prove you have resale rights (even if you were told by the person who sold you the software that it was), then they will not allow you to offer it.

The third explanation, 'similar to an existing software' is most likely reason the software was not allowed. So even if you submitted more proof that you have resale rights, it still will not affect the decision.

Letting ten people sell the exact same software on Seocheckout would only create a bidding war where everything was being offered at $3.00 and then there is no profit for the site on those orders.

Then what they want me to do since they refused to tell me what to submit but I must submit to prove I have resale rights?

Enter a reason for deleting this comment

August 30, 2014
Beverly
Then what they want me to do since they refused to tell me what to submit but I must submit to prove I have resale rights?


What type of documentation or proof did you receive from the seller that shows you have resale rights? This is the documentation that you would provide to them. For instance, did you receive a pdf document stating your resale rights? Do you remember the name of the software you were trying to sell?

Enter a reason for deleting this comment

maivutan
What type of documentation or proof did you receive from the seller that shows you have resale rights? This is the documentation that you would provide to them. For instance, did you receive a pdf document stating your resale rights?
Nope. Question About Selling Software
Do you remember the name of the software you were trying to sell?
Of course! Question About Selling Software

Enter a reason for deleting this comment

Beverly
Nope. Question About Selling Software
Of course! Question About Selling Software


Maybe you will have better luck trying to sell another software here. Just be sure to get that proof of ownership if you are buying software with resale rights.

Enter a reason for deleting this comment

August 31, 2014
maivutan
Maybe you will have better luck trying to sell another software here. Just be sure to get that proof of ownership if you are buying software with resale rights.
What kind of proof? :rolleyes:

Enter a reason for deleting this comment

Beverly
What kind of proof? :rolleyes:


I can only speak as to resale rights products that I have purchased in the past. For instance, when purchasing an ebook that has resale rights, it will usually state inside the ebook 'You now have resale rights' and then give a detailed description of how/when/where you may resell the ebook/product. Sometimes the resale rights notice is contained in a pdf document that is created and signed by the creator of the ebook or info product. This will contain the name of the ebook author as well as a detailed listing of rights being transferred to the customer.

I am not sure how it works when purchasing software. So your standard of proof may be different.

Just talking about ebooks here, but with a software, you may be given some other type of proof of resale rights ownership.

I will do more research on this issue online and see if I can come up with a more definitive answer that might help you.

Enter a reason for deleting this comment

September 1, 2014
maivutan
I can only speak as to resale rights products that I have purchased in the past. For instance, when purchasing an ebook that has resale rights, it will usually state inside the ebook 'You now have resale rights' and then give a detailed description of how/when/where you may resell the ebook/product. Sometimes the resale rights notice is contained in a pdf document that is created and signed by the creator of the ebook or info product. This will contain the name of the ebook author as well as a detailed listing of rights being transferred to the customer.

I am not sure how it works when purchasing software. So your standard of proof may be different.

Just talking about ebooks here, but with a software, you may be given some other type of proof of resale rights ownership.

I will do more research on this issue online and see if I can come up with a more definitive answer that might help you.
I feel that all documents online can be faked, so there is actually no way to get a proof that you have resale rights that can prove it's 100% accurate. :rolleyes: Thus, there is no need to be so hassle reading the helpless documents. :confused:

Enter a reason for deleting this comment

Beverly
When buying an item that claims to have resale rights, I would prefer the resell rights to be stated there in. Usually if the item states inside that you have resell rights, then you actually do. This is usually not the situation with software.

Have you tried purchasing private label rights software and then branding it with your own name? I am not sure if this would be acceptable, but the point of private label rights is that you can change it to claim it as your own.

Though maybe if there is a similar software already on seocheckout, then the software will still be rejected as a duplicate.

Enter a reason for deleting this comment

maivutan
Have you tried purchasing private label rights software and then branding it with your own name? I am not sure if this would be acceptable, but the point of private label rights is that you can change it to claim it as your own.
The software doesn't have any copyrights or trademarks. Question About Selling Software
Though maybe if there is a similar software already on seocheckout, then the software will still be rejected as a duplicate.
I got it through an auction, so it's impossible to be existed on seocheckout.

Enter a reason for deleting this comment

Asmodeus
The software doesn't have any copyrights or trademarks. Question About Selling Software
I got it through an auction, so it's impossible to be existed on seocheckout.


Why would it be impossible? The previous owner may have resold it to other people. For example, there is a well-known scammer who has been banned from several webmaster forums for selling "exclusive" rights to scripts and software to ONE person as the sole owner, and then he resells it to someone else later. It's a common scam.

Enter a reason for deleting this comment

maivutan
Why would it be impossible? The previous owner may have resold it to other people. For example, there is a well-known scammer who has been banned from several webmaster forums for selling "exclusive" rights to scripts and software to ONE person as the sole owner, and then he resells it to someone else later. It's a common scam.
If so, then it isn't buyer's responsibility since the seller is the scammer. Question About Selling Software

Enter a reason for deleting this comment

Asmodeus
If so, then it isn't buyer's responsibility since the seller is the scammer. Question About Selling Software

If you are selling it on an open marketplace, like seocheckout, then it IS the your responsibilty to prove you have the rights to sell it. If someone else is selling the same software that you both bought from a scammer then you're out of luck, as you don't have exclusive rights to it here.

Enter a reason for deleting this comment

maivutan
If you are selling it on an open marketplace, like seocheckout, then it IS the your responsibilty to prove you have the rights to sell it. If someone else is selling the same software that you both bought from a scammer then you're out of luck, as you don't have exclusive rights to it here.
Then I'll report the gig too and let both the current seller and me not able to sell the software. Question About Selling Software

Enter a reason for deleting this comment

Beverly
If you are selling it on an open marketplace, like seocheckout, then it IS the your responsibilty to prove you have the rights to sell it.


I don't have experience with purchasing software for resale online. Can you tell me what type of proof the seller should be giving to the buyer so he has rights to sell it? For instance, if I were to buy a software, what proof would I need to say that I can resale it? I have checked Google on this question extensively and can't find an answer. Your help is appreciated.

Enter a reason for deleting this comment

Asmodeus
Then I'll report the gig too and let both the current seller and me not able to sell the software. Question About Selling Software

Report him for what? If his software is listed here in the marketplace, then presumably he has already shown proof of ownership to be able to get his listing approved.

Enter a reason for deleting this comment

Asmodeus
I don't have experience with purchasing software for resale online. Can you tell me what type of proof the seller should be giving to the buyer so he has rights to sell it? For instance, if I were to buy a software, what proof would I need to say that I can resale it? I have checked Google on this question extensively and can't find an answer. Your help is appreciated.

In most cases a software developer will have unique lines of source code encrypted into the software "stamped" with their particular logo, username, website, etc, to prove it's their work. They'll also include a EULA (End User License Agreement) that gets passed to all buyers, including anyone buying it to resell AND the reseller must also include the EULA to their own buyers, to make it completely legal.

It is also customary for the original software creator to include a document granting reseller rights to anyone they have sold it to who has purchased it for the purpose of reselling. Sometimes the wording of the granting is very specific, as is the case with developer licenses for template resellers.

The biggest problem is that a lot of reseller products have vaguely worded terms, and then people will null/crack software to resell without having any paperwork at all.

Enter a reason for deleting this comment

Please login or sign up to leave a commentJoin